RE: Land Plot Efficiency for non-whales.
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You don’t need to be a whale. It is easy to have a high LPE with 5-10 plots. Get on with it :)
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You don’t need to be a whale. It is easy to have a high LPE with 5-10 plots. Get on with it :)
Thanks for the tag @beelzael! This will be a fun response. Let me just gather my thoughts and I'll provide my input.
And I agree with @azircon. You don't need to be a whale (I don't consider myself as one but I guess it depends on who's talking and how people see me lol) to have a high LPE.
It's a matter of organizing/prioritizing your cards and other assets (and budget if you're planning to add more) to make the most of what you have.
I didn't even plan on getting a good LPE! It just happened that way!
Well, as I showed - it's hard to get a really high LPE without the right cards. And to get the right cards, you need to have money (or be playing for a long time). That's why I did the simulation with Beta Rare RF, since those are currently the most efficient ones in PP/$ ratio - but they're not the best to get a high LPE. For that, one needs Alpha/Beta GF, and those cost quite a bit, which is a hassle when one is just starting out.
Even my simulation is a 500$ spending to get 2 plots running - for me, that is a lot :-D
Oh, and you made it into azirocns rich-list with almost 500 DEC/h - so you might to start considering yourself a whale :-D (that's a good thing! I'm not against whales, I'm just saying that the perspective from small fish is different, and it's more coherent to apply different metrics during different stages of the journey. Oh, and I like teasing Azircon with the whole whale thing.)
@thejedo is not a whale.
He is just smart and highly efficient :)
He has earned a seat at the top table.
What's the threshold for being a whale? I mean, he's no whale shark, but an orca maybe?
it is a statistical parameter....we have defined it at hive as follow:
At Staked SPS, we can define it as follows:
As per that definition, Land Plots are 150,000 total.
That does make @thejedo a whale :)
But people might feel whale to be too low.... then we can do this:
Wow this is so cool! Thank you for that! I'm a land dolphin! And and SPS Orca! I didn't know that existed. BUT if I may suggest to add one more category - the Purrgil. Stumbled upon it when I was searching for a whale which includes "jedo" in their scientific name. Of course, the algo brought me to Jedi Whales :-D And they're a lot bigger than regular whales, so...
I'd gladly accept the title lol! 😅
This is becoming bigger than a post :) but I think the land distribution might be like this
Well, the party is always in the kitchen, aka the comments :-D
That's a lot of Plankton out there. Good for baleen whales. I didn't know that so many people owned just 1 plot. Or is that the un-adjusted plankton of 0 plots? Still, many with just one plot or less.
Alrighty, here we go!
First of all, I love the cover photo! I hope Lily had a great time at the aquarium!
This message you have above is important. Not everyone is playing the same game as you.
With that said, and after rereading you post a few times, I think you have already figured it out. You fully understand what's going on. You've done the math. You've played out different scenarios. It's just a matter of how much more you are willing to invest into the land department and what you expect to get out of it.
Just understand the fact that some people got in earlier than we did so they have all these blinding Alpha GFs and there's nothing wrong with that. They held onto the cards because of their conviction and now they are being rewarded for it.
Also, other people/players devoted more time, attention, and effort into land early on and are now reaping some of the fruits of their labor.
Some guys were questioning my decisions last year why I was still buying land and land workers when I can just invest in Rebellion and play the game!
Now I can sit back and relax a bit and enjoy some passive income that I use to buy more plots AND, most recently, some Conclave Arcana cards!
In case you missed it, that post is HERE.
I guess the real question is, what is your goal with land and what are you doing about it? 😉
That's the correct question there! And also - what are your means? It's great that you found a way to make the most out of your money with Land. My idea of doing all these land calculations is to prepare beginners or smaller land owners like me for what's waiting for them, both good and bad. And comparing myself to the LPE and DEC/h of others, well, I don't think it's a good idea. I think it's better to calculate one's personal ROI and focus on that. From using money wisely, the LPE will eventually follow.
You need access to high PP cards - and those are expensive. If you're not a long-term player, getting those is quite the hassle. Hence, for small fish like me, it makes more sense to focus on ROI instead of LPE - that was my argument at least, I hope I was able to transmit that :-D
higher LPE = Higher ROI
Learn to check buy-sell channel. Lot of the good trades happens over the counter, not at the official market.
I can hook you up with an expert @xsuilx, if he check the tag. He is the king of over the counter p2p market. Even @bjangles recently bought a $700 card for $500 :)
Hm is that the hidden discord channel? I think I have access to that. And no, higher LPE does not necessarily mean higher ROI. ROI is still bound to prices on the market, what one can get for their money. For example, if I change my Simulation to GF instead of RF:
Beta Rare Gold foil. I pay $220 for a max, giving me 20,000 PP. That is 90 PP/$.
My buy-in would be: $2200 (10 max cards) + $50 Plots + $10 Cores + $100 Stake = $2360
Grain plot still feeds 4 workers, but 20,000 PP have to be fed (200 Grain/h or 1,979 DEC/h).
Stone production will be 200/h, minus 10% makes 180 Stone/h, which is 27,127 DEC/h, minus 1,979 = 25,148 DEC/h, 603,552 DEC/day, 220,296 DEC/year.
ROI: 220,296 / 2,360,000 = 9,3% per year (vs. 12,1% with Rare Beta RF)
BUT LPE = 25,148 / 2 = 12,574 (vs. 3.501 DEC/h/Plot with Rare Beta RF)
So, the yROI of my simulation goes down, but LPE goes up substantially. Hence, higher LPE does not equal higher yROI - that if I calculated somewhat correctly here :-D
No hidden discord channel that I'm aware of but the TPG discord does have a semi-active buy/sell/trade channel.
That said, I typically look for cards / prices on peakmonsters and if there's somethin I'm after, I'll hop into the in-game market to see if it's listed by someone I can reach out to directly to try to negotiate :)
That's a good tip, thank you! How do you usually negotiate? By historical value, saving fees, and so on?
Typically yea, c.) all of the above. Given that we're in the early days of CA, it's a good idea to kick the conversation off with an offer for trade instead, too :)
thank you!
also, I run a lot of plot like this
As Vugtis will say: "It is still some ROI"
Sure, it's better than leaving the plot idle.