Change Brawl Frays
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TLDR:/ Change tier five brawl tiers to be more competitive, eliminating unnecessary gold foil frays and increasing the amount of competitive frays available with variable set combinations to unlock new meta, gameplay and strategy.
Poor timing, its true. SPL just revised the brawl frays for the new release Conclave Arena. But somehow GF frays and the number of GF is never a part of the conversation. We hope to change that.
As a guild leader it is imperative to me that all guild members be able to contribute equally and participate in brawls. Right now, my guild members, and quite a few of the opposing guilds in the space feel punished because they cannot fill or compete in unnecessary GF frays. At a minimum, Tier 5 brawl suggestions to reduce GF frays down to three and add 4 additional set/combo frays to create a more competitive atmosphere.
SLPR (So Long Please Read):/
Alright, let's cut to the chase. The recent vote for Modern/Wild frays in Splinterlands Brawls highlighted an existing issue: the excessive number of Gold Foil (GF) frays, particularly the seven GF frays (19-25) in tier 5. The Current GF allotment of frays was never discussed during the vote; and with the changes to the rental system, the quality/competitive comps played in these frays is no longer up to par in the highest tier of brawls.
For top-tier guilds in Tier 5, where competition is at its peak, this GF dominance limits strategic diversity and accessibility for many guild members. To address this, a poll is being created to gauge support for reducing the number of GF frays to three for all tiers, with a specific focus on Tier 5.
This isn't about devaluing GF cards, but about creating a more balanced and competitive environment. By reducing GF exclusivity, we can open up more fray slots wild/modern bouts or simply for diverse card set combinations. Imagine frays mixing Core sets (Alpha/Beta), Untamed, Chaos Legion, Conclave Arena, and mini-sets like Dice and Riftwatchers. This would foster new metas, strategies, and tactics, making Brawls more engaging for a wider range of players. (Potentially leading the way to a survival match, best of 9 fights where cards are eliminated as you battle your way through the trenches, lot of details would need to be hashed out for this to even work)
For the health and competitivity of Tier 5 Brawls (and frankly, all tiers!), it's time for a little… rebalancing. Or at least some discussion.
Our proposal is simple and elegant: let's cap the Gold Foil frays at a sensible THREE for ALL tiers, especially the competitive Tier 5. Ensuring accessibility and competition remains peaked in the highest tier for the entire game.
While the recent Conclave Arena fray update didn't address the GF fray imbalance, this poll offers an opportunity for guild members to voice their preferences. Beyond simply reducing GF frays, we can also consider:
- Augmentation of modern/wild frays available for more accessible competition
- Specifying desired card set combinations for general frays.
- Implementing a rotating set variable (every 3-6 months) to refresh the meta and strategic landscape.
Think about it! By reducing the gold foil exclusivity, we open up more fray slots for exciting combinations of card sets.
Conclave Arena, its arrival is long awaited and welcome. But the number of Gold Foil frays wasn't part of that seismic shift discussion in the latest polls. This poll is the chance to address this known imbalance and to shape the future of the Brawl experience.
We're not just asking for fewer gold frays. Imagine a future where every 3 to 6 months, (or longer), the set combinations for the replacement frays rotate to add a fresh fray combination in. This would keep the meta fresh, force us to adapt our strategies, and prevent the frays from becoming stale. It's like adding a surprise ingredient to your favorite recipe – it keeps things interesting!
This initiative aims to empower guild members and encourage Splinterlands to create a more equitable and strategically rich Brawl system. Your participation in the upcoming poll is crucial to making this happen. Let's work together to shape a more balanced and engaging future for Splinterlands Brawls.
With the changes in the rental market and full season rentals, the need for GF changes is becoming ever apparent.
Cast your vote, spread the word, and let's work together to forge a brighter, more balanced future for Splinterlands Brawls! Your opinion matters, and together, we can make a real difference in the arena.
All options include reducing GF frays to 3.
With the replacement frays including:
A/B | Untamed | Chaos Legion | Conclave Arena |
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Paired with Riftwatchers | Paired with Conclave Arena | Paired with Beta/Untamed | Paired with Dice/Riftwatchers |
Option 1 would be to eliminate the excess 4 GF frays and determine the replacement frays without choosing at this time. Subject to further discussion and conversation.
Option 2 would be to replace the excess 4 GF with the replacement frays above.
Option 3 would be to replace the excess 4 GF with the replacement frays above; however the fray combinations/variations would change ever 3-6 months to ensure meta, strategy and tactics stay fresh with new set combos.
Comment below for option 4 to keep things as they are, or a different perspective.
(Some perspective, I have played in old gf and new gf after the rental change; the quality and competitive level of fights in these frays has slipped significantly. I would rather see great, accessible fights in rf frays across the board; whether modern or wild, than see a single gf summoner and a poor card placed into a brawl fight just so that guild gets a free win or some free sps).
Like things they way they are? Explain why and discuss how GF benefit by having 7 exclusive frays at the highest level of competition.
@davemccoy Interested on your take
My take is that I would like to do whatever works for the majority of the community. I believe there was already a poll taken that said to do it this way. However, I'm sure that we didn't get a huge turnout, so therefore its possible that the results were skewed.
I think the same thing would be the case here too. Meaning the results of this poll is likely to also be skewed.
Therefore I think the best solution is to gather the people that have interest, and have them meet with the people that also have stake so that we can find a solution that most all people can accept.
I personally don't have a strong view either way, but I think whatever the solution is that it should be "negotiated". I'm happy to get in the middle if you want, and be that finder of solutions. I'm also happy to support someone else if they want to do it as well, just let me know who wants to do it and I will share whatever I know.
RoyalEagle's Poll
The last poll did not discuss GF at all. There were quite a few people that wanted to reduce or change gf, but royaleagle did not engage with them. As opposed to the one fella that wanted to keep it, as it would devalue the gf. This is a compromise, keeps three GF fights, and adds more wild/modern bouts to keep the quality of competition/level of play high, which is want you want for the top guilds in the entire ecosystem.
Just scroll into the comments, also search the discord around the same time as the poll and you will see there was quite a lot of gf dissent that fell on deaf ears.
The poll did not take into account changing gf at all, it wasnt event considered (outside of mentioning that ppl wanted it, but thats all).
Fluid, my point is I"m happy to get in the middle and solve this issue if you want me to. Just DM in discord and let me know if you are interested, and I will start the process. I know there will be people on at least 2 sides of this issue, so the goal will be to find a compromise that works. I'm neither advocaing for or against anything, I'm simply trying to solve the problem if you want me to.
Are you in? If so, just message me and we will start the process! :)
Need more data and input from both sides. Next step will to be run another poll with the option to leave things as they are and let the general populace decide. Then push it up the chain from there.
I'm good with that Fluid! That definitely works
I used to play GF, now they all got taken before I could choose, so why am I buying GF cards?
to play tournaments, place on land, and reap extra rewards in ranked. Obviously there is the collectors desire as well. Do you delegate your gf to the ppl filling the frays?
Agree with the TLDR but I couldn't read the post. The AI fluff writing is just so awful.
So terribleeee. Why it has a TLDR for sure.
Thanks for sharing! - @clove71

It is a bit hard to fill the new frays, I agree.
the og clove paying a visit. You have a seen a massive shift/change from IG and the top 3-5 over time. Lot of ogs have turned nocturnal or left, brawls are the one place where community is a bit closer and keeps people coming back. Idk if reducing the friction points will help, but it cant hurt to try.
I think reducing it to 3 and try for a couple of seasons would be a good idea 👍
ye, I mean, maybe it wont do anything, and ppl with struggle to fill the additional modern/wild frays that replace them. Who knows. Its worth the try to change the engineering controls in our realm.
Filling a regular foil modern would be easier than a gold one, but sure it depends on the guild player strength etc. what ever goes better for the player community ❤️
Agreed yea, right now just trying to gauge how both leaders and members feel. If this is a net positive or not for guilds and pushing the level of competition up in higher tiers.
Higher tier requires so many frays to fill, especially the gold and old ones. You will find hard time to get players who actually own these cards and not renting entirely. So planning and strategies are must need to battle and grow long term in brawls as a guild. Best of luck buddy!
the old ones are actually easier to fill. The new modern stress for full frays is actually obnoxious. Especially at champ level play. If you didnt throw down 10k or more for the packs, i doubt you have a full set. or even competitive set. Its silly to switch the frays to modern in brawls this fast at set release.
Ideally it would be a 70% wild/30% modern split. Even then the modern may have to have "old modern" lol and include CL and rebellion to ease players into the full set rotation.
I think it is decided to encourage more people to focus on the latest editions - like Conclave Arcana currently. For the old ones, you may easy fill the frays but when battling against players who own most of the old cards - especially beta, untamed etc may give you hard time if you have a weaker wild collection.
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