RE: Hive With More Entertainment - The Adoption Secret

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Hive blockchain forms the basis for any kind of platforms and every frontend founders / team can choose what they want to create here, TikTok or anything else.

In my opinion, it's a mistake to try competing with TikTok or Facebook. The best mode for Hive, the best type of frontend is a Medium.Com-like one. PeakD or Ecency aren't facebook or anything else but an alternative of Medium. Instead of dreaming about the hegemony in the Internet, it would be better to choose larger competitors (Medium, Vocal.Media, etc - a long list with millions of potential Hive users) and to try to attract their users. Medium alone has 700.000 people paying around 4$ monthly (and much more who don't pay).

We (or better to say @peakd or @ecency) could think about how to attract these people.

  1. We should think why people are attracted to Medium so much they are ready to pay monthly
  2. We'd think how to get this people to Hive
  3. we'd think how to stimulate them to buy HIVE (because they are used to pay on Medium, we can use it in order to strengthen Hive economy).

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People want Medium because they know there are people (no matter these are only few people) who earn A LOT by writing because their writing is of high quality. Medium users are ready to pay 4$ a month to have hope to reach this goal one day, in 1-2-3 years. People also want to earn on Medium because they want to be professional writers and earn with writing.

Does Hive have it? It doesn't. Hive can't suggest a dream of earning 5000$ monthly. There are ways to suggest it with current economy. Monthly and yearly rewards to those who truly deserves it.

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How to get all these people. Getting all of them is tough, getting thousands of them is easy. If someone does the work. People on Medium and other platforms of this type are always in search of how to raise more money with writing. So it's enough to post articles on Medium and pay to some reputable Medium authors to review Hive. Etc.

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How to make newcomers buy Hive. Actually there is an undertone on Hive saying "guys, the more HP you have, the more you get upvotes". This undertone should be expressed in a clearer way to make newcomers buy Hive.

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First of all, I never knew this undertone brother, "the more you buy Hive, the more you get Upvotes". Is that a real thing?. Honestly you're right. Although the objective of competing with Giant Web 2.0. platforms like Facebook and TikTok seems like distant dream. I think we can start by winning a competition with Medium. You have opened my eyes to entirely new perspective here and I'm really going to start paying attention to medium.

I honestly didn't know authors can earn that much on Medium. Is it in crypto? Because of it's not in crypto it might put an exclusivity limitation on users, unless they actually have a worldwide payment system.

Indeed Hive growing to be big would be a graduation sadly slow process but since we keep getting newcomers I'm hopeful that one day we'll get there.

I'm liking the points you made on promoting the platform. 5000 dollars monthly, certainly I haven't seen any author earn that.

If only there were enough curators to send quality blogs to such levels of income, I personally knowing my passion for blogging would definitely quit all jobs and entirely focus on Hive itself.

Would definitely like to know more about this Undertone on Hive, is it really a real thing? The more HP you have the more Upvotes you get?

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undertone "the more HP you have, the more you get upvotes"

Let me mention three points.

  1. There were enough cases when people with great support first fully or significantly powered down and never saw decent support since then. It can be different for mods and devs and in some other cases but it did happen to many people. I don't know how exactly it works. It could be that it is just a special case of the second point:
  2. Some Hive users don't like it when other users power down. They see it like this: these users just want a quick buck and have no serious plans for Hive, why I should support such "tourists"?
  3. There are people who want to get upvotes in return. For example, some big accounts sometimes upvote my posts with 0.15% or so. But they upvote accounts with greater HP with 50% or more. (At the same time, I sometimes get huge 50%+ upvotes from other big accounts. So it depends.)

Thus, the more HP you have, the bigger rewards you get, generally. People just see "oh, this guy is serious about Hive, good". I personally withdraw HBD part, and, despite this, get good upvotes. So I don't mean you can't use your earnings on Hive, but you should also grow your HP.

All this is just my point of view and observations, maybe I am wrong in my conclusions.

I honestly didn't know authors can earn that much on Medium.

Yes, and you don't have to be famous for that, famous like this blogger: https://barackobama.medium.com

Medium pays to only a limited list of countries. So many thousands of people dream of joining the partner program of Medium but can't. Hive could get them.

Most people earn on Medium not much, below 100$, a few dollars (and they pay monthly 4$). Many of them would earn more on Hive with less effort.

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The big problem with HIVE is its invisibility in internet searches. Honestly, when I joined about half a year ago, after about two days I thought I'd give up and go away. The huge lack of clarity, the complexity of the system, the inability to find anything, any guidance, the search box displays users or groups instead of the search term, Users would be enough if they

  1. could find quick help and navigate quickly and efficiently.

  2. They didn't have to do a complicated search for information on how
    everything works on the different discords of each group. HIVE is
    a bit too conservative. A little fun, plus the possibility of making a little money would only help HIVE.

  3. HIVE is absolutely invisible from outside the internet, thanks to the nonsensical search system. Plus when you add to that (I don't know the reason) that Google sees it as unoriginal.

You're right in that a lot of people crave some moderately "wild" way. Without the, often utterly stupid, media like Tik Tok, which is already cluttered with nonsense, less rule-bound environments like FB. It's just that even if, after a long search, one stumbles upon HIVE, one is met with a completely illogical, unfriendly system that is very hard to navigate and learn to use.

Simplicity, clarity, visibility, and broader options for content are what HIVE lacks.

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invisible HIVE

True. Someone can write a good long read about why it's this way.

Google sees it as unoriginal

This is because different Hive front-ends display the same posts. After Google indexes a post on Hive.Blog or Ecency, it won't consider this post on Peakd or Waivio original.

Tik Tok, which is already cluttered with nonsense

Tik Tok can be highly entertaining but it is also the best definition of nonsense and bullshit. Hive has its own userbase, the audience, and we are different.

Honestly, when I joined about half a year ago, after about two days I thought I'd give up and go away

When I joined Steemit (before the fork) in 2019, I gave up in several days and never came back next 2 years :D But helping people to stay and attracting new people is a different topic.

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I agree that the community on HIVE has its own specifics. However, I have heard complaints about low website traffic. It's just that this is achieved by

  1. Visibility. And a larger user base.
  2. a friendly user environment
    Neither of which HIVE unfortunately has.
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low website traffic

Agree.

Front-ends must think about this. The code defines a lot in this question - must be light and SE-optimized. Alas, "blockchain" means slow loading of pages - Google dislikes this. As well as Google dislikes when frontends post not original content (as I said above, it's because all frontends generally post the same - clone posts).

Users are also in response:

  1. Google dislikes posts with heavy images and people don't care about making them optimized. I have many heavy images too but my blog is about photography, so no complaints.
  2. The second thing users do wrong: titles. Titles must be SE-optimized if you want traffic. (But we don't care - we have upvotes).

All mentioned here, from the slow website to the titles - all these are different on Medium: it's a light quick website (one of the reasons, it's not a blockchain one) with people who do care about titles and all SE-optimization.

P.S. I noticed efforts in this direction on another Hive front-end, InLeo.io

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There is still the user interface, a new user needs tutorials. He needs to find them easily. I'm sorry, but if I type wallet tutorial into the search box and this pops up, I don't get excited.

I'm also a photographer, no problem with the pictures, I don't need print quality or high resolution here. Photographers would definitely come, photobanks pay very little.
And the result is very uncertain. I might even bring some, but I don't dare to bring them. The main criterion today is the possibility to earn some money, the possibility is there. But when a new user hits this system, ninety-five people out of a hundred run away.

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