RE: “Mavericks House” Discord Channel Pre-Proposal

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I'll repeat what I sent you in DM

  • Some of the most toxic people in mav chat would pass all new criteria with flying colors, so they would be part of the 'new' mav chat' too.

  • Some people who are accused of trolling because they've sold out, have sold out everything but their SPS - so they would be part of the 'new' mav chat' too.

  • A lot of reasonable voices would be locked out, leaving even more room for the toxic ones who meet the criteria

I can see you added the 'moderators' to your proposal, but I still think the guidelines you mention

Trolling, belittling and personal attacks are unacceptable behavior.
Constructive criticism is welcomed, as long as it is projected in a professional manner.
All Mavericks will be expected to be respectful to the Moderators and Team members alike

already exist right now. And as you know, it's not easy to get mavs to comply. Tbf, having to moderate mav chat is an awful job. As a free moderator, you don't get paid enough to deal with all the crap you get when you moderate strictly in mav chat. And now they get an extra job while they're at it?

I still think stronger moderation in mav chat and respect from the mavs for the moderators would go a long way in what you're trying to accomplish with this.

In conclusion, I'm 100% against excluding people, on top of the fact that I think this won't achieve what you want it to.

For the record: I would still be a mav if this ever passes, although I'm not sure I want to be a part of this and might give up the role if this ever happens

EDIT: Also, the 'staked SPS' requirement doesn't seem like a good measurement to see if people are invested in the game or not. What if someone sold his SPS to invest in cards. What if someone has 6 figures in cards, land and stuff, but less than 100k in SPS?
Is this person less invested than someone who has 100k SPS and nothing else?
Or, to use your words: less important ?



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And what will happen if this measurement doesn't have the wanted result after a while? Up it and make it 500k SPS? 1M SPS?
I think it's a dangerous road you're taking here. If I would like to troll in mav chat, 100k SPS is a lot easier to achieve atm than buying 1000 packs.

As I said in my message: I still don't totally get what you want to achieve. I know you listed the benefits, but I truly wonder if you really believe that setting this requirement will create an environment with less salt and more 'new and fresh ideas'... As I said before: the only thing that will happen is that you exclude a good number of people who invested in 1000 packs, as was required, and are still invested and might have those ideas you're looking for, and nothing else.

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Maybe we should have a way to request that they get grandfathered in if they were in it before and not being in it like that would be considered rude or a slap in the face in some cultures i believe so passing it for ppl going forward would be fine and if its ppl being dicks in the channel then just ban or kick do what they would do anyway but i would let ppl like luna stay especially if ppl are saying that she had a really positive impact. Doesnt make sense to me to kick her out and i dont know her but if other ppl feel that strongly she probably and others in her situation be allowed to stay if they request it. Maybe a override for exceptions is a good way to do it. Anyone being just assholes will be warned and banned anyway so i would if i were doing this just grandfather everyone and weed out the ppl just constantly being a ass in the chat and going forward change the req for new ppl if you want to 100K sps is cheaper than 1000 packs at least right now and if sps does get say 2-5X more expensive consider adjustments in the future. Also give everyone a way to view the mav chat but maybe not talk in it if they dont meet the req so ppl can at least read what is being talked about

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i read it for years lol I was technically a mav since the begining but just started talking init this year bc i never wanted to register lol finally did it. having new ppl able to read it will help bc they can find out info they may not see otherwise

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Maybe have a way for ppl to sponsor others like that by delegation as well but in my opinion i would just leave the ppl grandfathered and anyone new or ppl that don't need to be grandfathered are subject to the 100K. I don't care bc it prob wont ever impact me but i wouldn't want to lose someone with a positive impact like luna seems to have bc it sounds like banning her is taking away a valuable person and would upset a whole group of ppl and a person who talks up the game and really likes it are the ppl we want to keep to. i Wouldn't want to see that happen. I did vote yes bc i didnt really think it mattered bc it has zero impact on me but seeing as how it seems to impact others in a bad way im going to change to vote no with my sps just bc i think it will hurt and permanently make some good ppl leave bc in some cultures they would consider that a slap in the face now that i think about it.

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