RE: Reward Cards Update

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Instead of just paying DEC to unlock Soul Bound cards or making the cards permanently Soul Bound.

Why not have an optional mechanism where older cards from Wild / CL can be staked/put to work unchaining the Soul Bound cards for a set time?
The more BCX / CP staked per card the faster they unlock.
Even if implementation is after the 180-day DEC purchase window, it would be better than perma binding the cards for poorer players.
This way the Whales can pay DEC to unlock cards early and we mere mortals can also unlock our cards, but it will take longer.

Benefits
Cards from older sets will be locked up for a while, increasing the rarity of those older sets, like Land soaks up cards, pushing up the value of older sets.
Players who play in Modern have a use for older card sets as the Wild sets have more CP, which will unlock the cards faster.
The mechanism can be repeated when Rebellion Reward Cards are fully released, meaning the CL Reward cards can be staked to unlock the Rebellion Reward cards.
This way the CL Reward card unlocking is staggered.
Most of the coding was already created when Land 1.5 was written.
If implemented after the 180 days for DEC purchase, the Devs have 180 days to implement it.

Otherwise, the same message is being sent to new players - if you're not a whale, don't play! Because the Reward Cards will NEVER be tradable/rentable NFT's in this alleged Play to Earn game.

The game description tag on the Splinterlands Hive account is as follows:

'Splinterlands is a blockchain-based collectible card game. Collect digital assets, battle thousands of other players, and win crypto and other rewards!'

As the Chaos Legion Reward Cards are Soul Bound and will remain Soul Bound as I cannot afford the unlock cost, I did not win them and do not own them. I will never be able to sell them or rent them out.

Now I know, I will not win/own a single Rebellion Reward Card.

This game description is misleading.



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Why not have an optional mechanism where older cards from Wild / CL can be staked/put to work unchaining the Soul Bound cards for a set time?
The more BCX / CP staked per card the faster they unlock.
Even if implementation is after the 180-day DEC purchase window, it would be better than perma binding the cards for poorer players.
This way the Whales can pay DEC to unlock cards early and we mere mortals can also unlock our cards, but it will take longer.

I like this idea - I say this as someone who more than likely will not pay to unlock cards, but wouldn't mind staking some cards to break the "soulbound curse".

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It would be nice to see this implemented.

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Why not have an optional mechanism where older cards from Wild / CL can be staked/put to work unchaining the Soul Bound cards for a set time?
The more BCX / CP staked per card the faster they unlock.
Even if implementation is after the 180-day DEC purchase window, it would be better than perma binding the cards for poorer players.
This way the Whales can pay DEC to unlock cards early and we mere mortals can also unlock our cards, but it will take longer.

Expanding on this - there could be a requirement for summoners to be staked (uses for older/non meta summoners) and certain splinters of monsters (Fire requires Fire, etc). Could even go as far as "sacrificing" (burning) an older reward card that was overprinted to speed up the "unlock ritual".

The more I think about it there's tons of ways this could have been implemented that would involve different gameplay assets/lore instead of just...costing money.

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There's also another problem with the unbinding of the CL cards. Next card rotation, CL cards are unusable in Modern Format. So, who will be buying these unbound CL reward cards? the ones being paywalled in Wild Format?

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I wonder if they would implement a rule where they can pay for cards to be usable in Modern Format. Like Every single player cannot use Djinn Oshannus because of the rotation but you can because you unlocked yours to play it.

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I like the idea. The problem is that team is financially strained and it will take more than copying some Land 1.5 code to develop this system. You could try making a DAO Proposal to see if you can get community support.

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Hi Vimukthi,

Thanks for taking the time to read my comment.

I don't have the DEC to create a proposal.

Also, Whales control SL, and SL employs some mega Whales from what I can work out. So any proposal that will cost SL to implement will be voted down, especially if SL are strapped for cash.

The proposal system makes the minnows feel like they have a say, but the reality is that they don't.

If SL were interested, they would have read the comment, and be considering it.

I have proven to myself that SL staffers could unlock their Reward cards and profit from these changes, so why would they vote to disadvantage themselves?

As some commenters have pointed out, enticing desperately needed fresh players to this game seems low on SL's agenda.

Those who can afford to unlock the Reward cards (SL-employed mega Whales included) will have the opportunity to unlock the abundant locked NFT's and transform them into scarce unlocked NFT's, which, in the future could become very valuable. All at the expense of the wider player base.

Whether it is ethical for SL-employees to unlock these cards when they work for the company that issues them and when it is at the expense of a large number of customers', is up for debate.
Some government agencies would see DEC and SPS as commodities and maybe the NFT's. Considering the value involved (Billions of $US), this could leave SL open to investigation.

For example, in some countries, employees entering public lotteries created by their employer is illegal.
After all, the SL locked Reward NFT's were originally won and randomly revealed by opening a Chest (before the introduction of Glint). So, it could be considered a form of gambling.

Strangely, the player base has moved on already and accepted this. The comments here have dried up, and on Discord, have moved on to other subjects.

People are now talking about the new cards & abilities and strategising.

Clever move, bundling good news with bad and sticking the good news at the front. Right out of a politician's handbook, lol.

Is this yesterday's news already?

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Try gaining support on Discord. With enough support you will be able to have a community funded Proposal. 100,000 DEC is a significant amount for many of us. One of the biggest problems with governance is that there isn't enough participation. That is why the Whales have a great deal of power. Only 20% -25% staked SPS votes for Proposals.

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Hi Vimukthi,

I thought SPS proposals were SPS DAO specific and not for game content / NFT changes.

After my conversation with MattClarke (potentially an SL Discord Mod/involved in SL Treasury) on this Hive post I am seriously considering whether Splinterlands is a pyramid scheme. With Mega Whale SL Employees at the top of the pyramid and the Whales just below them. At the bottom of the pyramid are the people being milked to line the pockets at the top.

SL Leadership were also involved in the creation of Golem Overlord (GO). My first experience with GO Discord Mods was being accused of spamming a channel for submitting two posts hours apart. I now have further doubts about this game.

SL is not worth my time, my SPS holding dropped $10 to $100 in 24 hours as far as I saw at a glance.

Worse than this the SL Leadership are also heavily involved in Hive.

I have already made considerable progress with WAX, this is where my future lies.

Crypto is about money, if you don't trust someone with your money, it's time to move on.

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I love this idea so much. Not sure if it would be possible but just wanted to say I love it! It also makes it feel more gamer friendly. As I have seen this kind of thing in other games (like some mobile games).

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You made a brilliant idea.
I don't know if Splinterlands team will take i or not.
I don't feel it's a NFT game anymore, it became #pay2earn game.

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Thanks for the comment.

I agree with your sentiments.

They are stopping vouchers for paying for Wild, so the price just went up as you now have to pay in DEC.

I'm guessing ArchAngle wants me to throw 100K DEC at raising a vote to the SPS DAO, if they were that interested, they would discuss and implement it.

I will be lucky if I can throw together 5k and that is staked on land.

The Whales would vote it down I suspect anyway and several of them are affiliated to SL in some way.

It's all starting to look and feel like a pyramid scheme, the ones at the top with all the control and bleeding out the base.

Since 2021 I've climbed from 15K CP to almost 600K.

The paying to unstake rewards and the hike in the fee to play in Wild are the last straw for me, time to get out.

!MEME
!LOLZ

Good luck!

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