RE: Good Bye, Splinterlands
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Schnapoon is one of Splinterlands true great ones!
When I first started to play this game almost all players I faced in ladder was bad bots with starter cards.
I looked at the leaderboard and the silver tournaments to find the same name winning everywhere, Schnapoon.
I found him on discord and told him I was a noob that wanted to get better and asked him to play challenges against me.
This humble guy not only beat the shit out of me regularly, but thought me some important strategies and the current metagame in between matches.
Translating everything from Japanese sure must have been difficult as well.
I will always respect and cherish your humble but also very cocky persona ;)
I know you will find great success if you put your gamer mentality into what you do!
Good luck to you and your new path my Japanese brother <3
I am happy to hear you say so, but at the same time I have mixed feelings.
Do you still like to play against me manually?
You stopped asking me to practice after you recommended xbot to me.
I really hate to put it this way, but I think Peakmonster pirates are hated by most Silver Leaguers.
Are you okay with that?
I have never used the battlehelper ever on any of my accounts in Tournaments or in Brawls.
But Xbot play ladder on all my 8 accounts.
If I wouldn't use xbot i would not play any ladder at all(and miss all the soulbound reward cards and some sps as well)
With Xbot I could start more accounts to play brawls that I like the most.
I only recommended Xbot to you when you said you used Archmage to play ladder for your Schnapoon account.(you make it sound like something else)
Last time I asked you you said you were going to push for your business and didn't have time to practice anymore, so I just wanted to respect that.
The game is what it is, lets see if this changes with the new bot ban in modern.
Anyone can hate on Pirates but maybe Pirates are a more personal issue for you than it is in general.
I've been playing some tournaments and its hard to beat the battlehelper users who play them, but I also understand that players want to earn by playing just like you have been able to do.
Maybe I should go for the ladder leaderboards as well. If xbot is this good I think I should be able to win every ladder leaderboard hence I rent all the cards every brawl.
I would never play anything else than manual in a Brawl or a challenge. As you know I like to loose cause that's when I learn. I'm a old gamer who have been accused for using bots or tools for 25 years without ever cheated in my life ;)
Hit me up on discord when you are ready to play :) I will rent up for my brawls soon!
I see.
I believe you. I consider you to be one of the deepest friends I have known in Splinterlands.
I see. We need to look at the new environment.
My hatred of pirates is certainly a bit personal, but I've heard more than that.
ueyuey is a good friend of mine as well, and we have daily discussions with me on how to deal with them.
I feel bad for him because I understand his passion and love for this game.
I can understand why pirates member would be so dependent on using such a tool to get the number one ranking, but I hope you understands how much trouble you are causing people who truly love this game.
I am sad.
If ueyuey gives up playing like I did, I won't be back, because ueyuey is the reason I got this far.
Thank you, and same to you my friend!
I know that Iamnothing and Anonymouselee played the leaderboard in Bronse before we went to Tier 4 and they started to play silver. Before battlehelpers and also made first place finishes.
You are top 10 by using Archmage. I can't really see the difference by placing 1st or placing 10th and that Archmage would be more ok than Xbot?
I'm pretty sure we all feel the same way about bots, and I think they should be nerfed or something at least so they don't destroy the game for more real players.
Maybe we should do a challenge without the bots for fun.
5 pirates vs 5 of your best players in silver?
I don't say we would win but I'm pretty sure we would give a good fight.
Anonymouselee, Iamnothing, Lics01, Mumuwhale are some of the best players I know in silver together with your Japanese crew :) I've played these guys a lot and consider them better than me.
Putting this out like these Pirates are bot only players are just bad mouthing and hating on some of this games true gamers who are adapting to the meta of the game(witch is laddering with help of bots). Its the rules of the game that needs to be changed.
I'm pretty sure that these guys doesn't play bot in brawls because I watch their games, I also play up to 9 freys myself and I play against battlehelper builds all the time believe me!
Tournaments are destroyed by bots and its so hard to compete against them these days. But I still hope and believe that most players have the self respect to at least play their own game in brawls.
There is always two sides to a coin and I think we all are more similar than you might think. I also remembered from our "Pirates attack Schnapoon" live event that Iamnothing beat you more times than you beat him and he also posted screenshots of his builds before you put in your teams(in case you think he looked at your livestream or something)
Don't pick on the pirates who aim for your and uey's success in this game just because the game isn't the same anymore.
Just check the full rental of cards with a much lower winrate than you and uey and you can see that these guys does not bot in brawls at least. So I say they deserve credit compared to a lot of other guilds with a majority of players seams to use battle helper in brawls and pick easy wins with cheap rents.
The leaderboard is not everything in this game and ueyuey deserves and probably get the biggest respect and credit to be so good and consistent that he is.
Now lets see the broader picture and not just the players who used bots to ladder the 95% bot silver ladder shall we?
First of all, you and I are arguing from different positions and with different justifications, so I expect that if we continue to talk like this, we will not be able to come to a coherent position and it will go in a bad direction. Since you and I both seem to feel that we are victims of each other, we will not be satisfied with this discussion. Please listen to me on the assumption that I feel that way.
You will know from the response to this article that what I am telling you is not just my personal feelings or narrow minded opinion.
And if you guys could imagine if you were not using BH, you would understand that better. I am sure you can imagine if you really like to play manual in this game.
I have left everything to AM for one season and that tool was not top 10 anything.
Even with my card assets, I was in the top 20 or lower in Silver League LB.
For some reason in a 50 mana match I would choose Serenia instead of Kitty. He uses only beta rare summoners even though they are not very active.
I use them because I feel that is what the bot should be. If they are in the top 10 on the last day then I will discontinue using them after that.
There would be no one who would take 5vs5 with you guys.
At least I can trust you, but I can't trust any player other than you not to use BH.
I think it is pointless to fight in such a situation.
If you don't want to be thought of as a bot only guild, just stop using it.
Even if you beat a prominent manual player, those rumors will not go away.
I also agree with you that the bad guys are the xbots who let people use the rules of the game and BH on the cheap. But it is my opinion that it is wrong to reopen it as a meta to the game.
I never asked you not to look at my screen for the SPLTV event.
Of course I applaud you guys for your victory, but that was a kind of entertainment, and winning there won't change everyone's opinion of it.
I am very disappointed in the current environment where I have to think this way about people I thought I had a better relationship with than that.
Ok you can say i use battlehelper when i have never used it ever in my life.
And if you continue to use that as an argument i will call you a repeatetive liar.
Iamnothing2 beat ueyuey without xbot just playing manual last season in the end as well. Believe it or not.
I can't play 8 accounts in ladder manually and i don't find it fun before i come higher in the ladder either. d
These guys i listed don't use battle helper in brawls and neither do i.
The players that uses it in brawl i see it pretty clearly.
I suspect we have 1 player that uses battlehelper in brawls.
And we might do something about it eventually.
Maybe I can go though your own guild and find one as well.
We take proud to this game and our players are adapting to this new meta when others give up to the bots.
I'm happy that i can find enjoyment of renting up all cards in the mighty gambit just to get 1-13 as a result in the end but I understand why people join the meta and uses helpers as well. (credits to the players who play natural like me and mumu does with all our accounts in brawls and tournaments)
Caring about playing manual in ladder these days are not the meta.
You clearly have some issues with everything that's happened and in my point of view it feels like you don't listen to what I say in these posts and continues to alter the reality based on your feelings.
In the first place, I never once questioned whether you (cryptohoppir) use BH or not, nor did I use it as an excuse.
You are mistaken about something. Your misunderstanding may be due to a translation error, sorry about that.
But it is hard to believe about players other than you. It seems to me that when you are told something that is not good for you or your members, you immediately assume it is subjective to me and try to excuse it.
Try to gather some prominent Silver League manual players who are willing to play 5vs5 with you. I bet you won't be able to get them.
Of course there is subjectivity involved, but I am speaking from a relatively objective point of view. If you can get them together, I'll grant you your opinion.
And my suggestion that you stop using xbot if you want credit is not an attempt to change you guys.
I'm just offering a quick solution since you seem to want credit for me.
There is an xbot user in my guild, but I never suggested anything to change his mind.
I understand the idea of a metagame, but do you think new players would willingly join Splinterlands, where metagames that ignore the inherent fun of the game are prevalent?
To me it seems like you guys are bringing guns to a game where you fight with swords and saying you are proud of this game.
The things you say that I argue about and that makes me sad are listed below. "Questions" -Answers.
"Do you still like to play against me manually?"
-Sounds like you assume I would play a BH against you or anyone else in a challenge.
"You stopped asking me to practice after you recommended xbot to me."
-You said you didn't have time to practice anymore and were starting a business last time i asked. Then you his make it sound like I recommended xbot to you when in the reality i saw your matches and figured it out it was not you playing, This was like 4 months ago.
And I only recommended xbot to you because it doesn't charge anything for playing ladder for you like your current Archmage bot did.
"I think Peakmonster pirates are hated by most Silver Leaguers."
-No comment on this one this comment I treat it's from you only.
"And if you guys could imagine if you were not using BH, you would understand that better. I am sure you can imagine if you really like to play manual in this game."
-I have never used the BH. You make it sound like I need to imagine something about playing manual? Ladder have always been a bot grind and I have never played it. I play this game for brawls and challenges.
-Also I'm sure you can check the money being sent to the BH account and see for yourself who have used money on it. From your own guilds(based on a post on peakd in April) 3 players from SOG and 2 players from SS had sent money to the Battle helper.
"I have left everything to AM for one season and that tool was not top 10 anything.
Even with my card assets, I was in the top 20 or lower in Silver League LB."
-I'm pretty sure you don't play 4 games an hour in the other seasons, so you destroy this game just as much as I do and are always above my xbot grinding my soulbounds for me even when I rent all cards for every brawl.
"I understand the idea of a metagame, but do you think new players would willingly join Splinterlands, where metagames that ignore the inherent fun of the game are prevalent?"
-I believe that the bots are by far the biggest threat to this game and have been since 2019.
This is also the reason I never played this game until I decided to join a guild and play brawls, that made it competitive and fun.
"To me it seems like you guys are bringing guns to a game where you fight with swords and saying you are proud of this game."
-You can say this to yourself instead. We use a bot for the same reasons. I rather play my brawls and then play with my children.
If you don't see what I have tried to do for this game and also for you and your Japanese teammates maybe you should check the logs on your discord.
Sorry to make you sad.
It was my inadequacy that caused it.
As I said before, it is not constructive to argue with someone thinking you are the victim.
I have my doubts about some of your assertions, but I'm tired of them. I want to stop now. I am not angry nor do I want to cause you grief.
I judge that further questions and answers are pointless, so I am sorry, but I will not reply anymore.
Finally, what is a Discord log?
The official Splinterlands Discord?
The definition is too broad to know.
I have a really hard time keeping up with the chat because I have to translate every single sentence and understand the meaning from the various conversations. So I turn off notifications and only read them if someone sends me a direct link.
Well then I'm sad to say that you just seam to be a childish liar that can't stand up for your own lying comments when someone have proof to disprove them.
I know Halfblue and probably some of your other Japanese friends can translate everything for you.
You will loose your face if you continue to argue, and I'm no victim here I'm just defending what's right and honest from your made up bullshit.
This talk about translation mistakes etc, have gone too far and I see now that you alter the reality to make it fit your ego. Based your feelings it might still be your reality but its not the truth.