How to Fill your Wagons!
Fill your Wagons
Finally the Conclave Arcana Conflicts are here. I dug out my Rebellion Conflicts post. Here is the official announcement. The mechanics remains the same: You get your wagons, and you stake 5 cards in them. Here are some differences this time:
Wagons were $10 (in DEC/credits before, now they are $4 to $5 (priced in Wood, Stone, Iron and Aura), and you need them eight times
- 40,000 Wood
- 10,000 Stone
- 4,000 Iron
- 2,500 Aura
100,000 points gives you 1 chance, just like previous; but you need 800 chance now to get a guaranteed 1 card airdrop, compared to 200 chance for 1 during the first Rebellion conflict
800 entries × 100,000 points = 80 million points in 30 days. So to calc that down to how much CP (of Conclave you need) that would be 80,000,000 / 30 / 24 = 111,111 CP
Here is that data full details in tabular format:
| Item | Value |
|---|---|
| Base Gold Foil Chance | 4.00% |
| Boosted Gold Foil Chance | 8.00% |
| Alchemy Potions Per Chance | 50 |
| Base Black Foil Chance | 0.10% |
| Boosted Black Foil Chance | 0.20% |
| Midnight Potions Per Chance | 50 |
| Points Per Entry | 100,000 |
| Airdrop Chance Per Entry | 0.125% |
| Entries for Guaranteed Airdrop | 800 |
| Airdrops for Guaranteed Gold Foil | 25 |
So from this, the first thing that comes to people's mind is how are they going to populate the wagon. Obviously more CP (collection power) the better. My problem is, these days I deal with mostly PP (production power), and I have forgotten about CP. So this conflict led me to work on the CP again.
There is a 5% bonus for max cards, and wagons cost money and they break. So it is prudent to pack them as densely as possible. The plot above shows the CA cards Max CP on all three foil types and all four rarity. The vertical scale is log. I also have the linear scale which I will paste below :) The reason I am laughing is because the BF are so big is CP, it is hard to see the regular foils!
Yep! That is how lucrative BF cards are. Full disclosure, I only have 1 epic and 1 legendary black foils.
Here is the data for the max CPs
| Rarity | Regular | Gold | Black |
|---|---|---|---|
| Common | 2,100 | 4,987.5 | 24,937 |
| Rare | 2,415 | 11,550 | 57,750 |
| Epic | 4,830 | 26,250 | 131,250 |
| Legendary | 5,775 | 52,500 | 262,500 |
There you have it. Start filling your wagon. Get your CA Black Foils out of land 3 days prior. I recommend doing it this weekend and keep one full day of buffer, just in case!
Conflict starts on July 16, 2025, at 12 PM EST / 4 PM UTC
The Ratio
The CP ratios are important. People have strong opinions about it. I don't have any. It is what it is :)
| Rarity | Regular | Gold | Black | GF/RF | BF/GF | BF/RF |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Common | 2,100 | 4,987.5 | 24,937 | 2.38 | 5.00 | 11.87 |
| Rare | 2,415 | 11,550 | 57,750 | 4.78 | 5.00 | 23.91 |
| Epic | 4,830 | 26,250 | 131,250 | 5.43 | 5.00 | 27.17 |
| Legendary | 5,775 | 52,500 | 262,500 | 9.09 | 5.00 | 45.45 |
Point is a BF legendary is 45 times more effective in conflicts than a RF legendary.
There it is already 🤣, the post.
For me its simple... my few BF i own will be working on the conflict wagons, for a few months, will definitely mis the PP.
Yeah.
I have to edit and add a ratio between BF/GF etc
Lol, I should check my feed before writing posts... luckily, this time our posts, though on the same topic, are very complementary to each other.
The repairs will be interesting as well. Only repair to get multipliers of the 111,112 Points/h is the most efficient way (seems like I calculated that correctly, too - by the way, you have one 1 too much in the post). And land-owners lose less money on wagons than on potions, until now.
https://peakd.com/hive-169191/@beelzael/conflicts-and-wagons
Yeah, thanks, I fixed the typo.
Nothing wrong is posting similar topics.
Man, shows how much I pay attention, I didn't realize they were doing wagons again. I guess I should have figured....
Plenty of time! Not until July 16
You have to fill the wagons with arcana cards though right? I don't have any of those.
Can do with RB too, but you will get half power
Ah, okay.
Yeah I still wonder how effective it is to join the conflicts as a lower level player, prior airdrops / conflicts weren't spectacular to say the least (both 1 CC of a legendary summoner airdropped) so maybe I just better spend to funds on buying what I need or more SPS... choices choices...
If you can put together 120K CP from CA set, it is worth joining the conclave. A single airdrop card will put you ahead. The current cost of wagon is under $5. You have the cards already (hopefully). The airdrop card will definitely be more than $5.
Hopefully, you have your old Rebellion wagons. They should be enough for the first round. From the second round onward, if you get a drop, only one wagon breaks, and that is the one you have to buy again. If the price stay $5 or $6, the airdrop card will definitely be worth it.
My wagons are on this account but this account with (close to) max level reward and CL cards is now handled by xbot, so this account has wagons but almost no RB and CA cards, I manually play silver level modern on @nozem, and it doesn't have wagons 😏 can't have it all!
Good to know the wagons are relatively cheap, thnx
Hopefully pull a black foil legendary sometime soon in my pack a day… 😃
We knew they made a big difference but when you see it in graphical form it really does make you wonder what they were thinking when they made the CP so much more
One can get lucky!
That is why I plot data. The data itself is mundane, but a good plot can open people's eye.